Divi Nation Short: First Season Lessons & Season Two Overview

Posted on February 5, 2016 by in Community | 25 comments

Divi Nation Short: First Season Lessons & Season Two Overview

Divi Nation is back! It’s been longer than I had originally hoped but we are finally rolling again with a new season of our podcast and YouTube show.

Last season we had fifteen members of the Divi Community share their WordPress/Divi stories and valuable professional experience with us. In season two we will continue to focus on compelling stories and actionable advice–but with a few notable changes to our episode format and release schedule.

All of which is discussed below in our very first Divi Nation Short.

Divi Nation Short: First Season Lessons & Season Two Overview

In this episode of Divi Nation I share a few key takeaways I gained from creating season one of the podcast, as well as offer an overview of what you can expect in season two. The sections below provide an accurate but slightly “cleaned up” version of this episode in written form.

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Lessons Learned Creating Season One of Divi Nation


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I could probably write a book on everything I learned writing, producing, and editing season one of Divi Nation. Well, an eBook at the very least. But in terms of broad-stroke lessons that will have a major impact on the future of Divi Nation, I was able to narrow the list down to five. Here they are.

1. One hour of content every week is too much for the average community member.


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When we launched the first episode of Divi Nation there was a lot of enthusiasm. It got a fantastic reception on the blog, on Facebook, YouTube, and iTunes. But as the weeks rolled on, I noticed more and more people saying things like, “This episode looks so good! I just need to catch up on the last three first.”

And it shows in the stats. Even though the podcast got better in quality each week, and I (hopefully) became a better podcast interviewer, the amount of people that could keep up with the pace I was setting dwindled week by week.

My goal moving forward is to make every episode of Divi Nation so useful and so easily consumable that anyone who wants to stay current with us can do so.

2. Turns out one hour of content every week was too much for me too.


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Between managing the blog, social channels, and creating an hour long podcast every week I didn’t have any time to actually be a part of this awesome community. I was basically just throwing content at you guys without getting a chance to participate in the conversation that was happening on a daily basis.

That’s something I want to change going forward. And the only way I can see to do that, is if we simplify and slow down. That means shorter episodes and a staggered release schedule. Which I’ll get into next.

3. Episode releases need to become much simpler.


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Releasing three to five videos and an audio feed all at once (in the same blog post) made it easier for people to see just the parts of an episode that they wanted to, but it also hurt the overall content performance.

And it probably intimidated some visitors seeing that many videos in one blog post.

The biggest negative impact this practice had though, was on SEO and onsite search. We couldn’t optimize a post for a single topic, because in a given episode we’d have a chat about WordPress news, a story, an interview on a specific topic, a Divi Quick Tip, and some announcements. All of which got plenty of play by themselves, but when released together they kind of held each other (and the podcast as a whole) back by making it harder to discover.

But don’t worry, there is a fix.

Ok, so, in a very general sense, there are two types of content that ended up in every episode: Segments and Interviews. To simplify things moving forward, we’re only going to publish one of those content types at a time.

Every other week, starting next week, we will publish a full length episode of around 30 minutes which will consist of a single interview.

On the alternating weeks, we will publish Divi Nation Shorts—five to fifteen minute episodes in which we’ll feature the types of content that formerly would have been in our segments; stuff like Divi Quick Tips, Design Challenges, and new stuff we haven’t even tried yet.

All-together this will allow me to make each shorter piece of content that much better, optimize our posts and listings so current episodes perform better and past episodes are easier to find. And finally it will allow me to participate in the community throughout the week instead of only on release days or when someone tags me into a conversation on Facebook.

4. Relatable stories and actionable advice were essential to an episode’s success.


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Without fail, episodes with the highest community engagement had the most relatable stories. And those that proved most useful, got specific with actionable advice. I plan on doubling down in these areas when conducing Divi Nation interviews.

In fact, one huge benefit of the changes I just mentioned a second ago, is that I’ll actually be able to spend more time finding and recording the people with the best WordPress and Divi related stories and the most valuable advice to share with our community.

So that’s something I’m extremely excited about and I hope those things continue to prove both popular and valuable to you.

5. The most popular individual pieces of content to come out of season one were by far Divi Quick Tips. So we’re gonna do a whole lot more.


Most of the Divi Nation Shorts will consist of Divi Quick Tips. We might group two or three into a Divi Nation Short or spend the full episode tackling one Divi related problem in detail. Albeit still in a much shorter format than a full Divi Nation episode.

Overview of Divi Nation Season Two

We’ve got a lot of great stuff coming up in Season two of Divi Nation. One of the biggest changes—aside from those already mentioned—is that we’ve reached out to influential members in the wider WordPress community to share their stories and experiences too.

Already we’ve got some big WordPress names that I’m pleased to announce have agreed to appear on the show:

brian-gardnerBrian Gardner, the founder of Studiopress, co-creator of the Genesis framework and now partner at Rainmaker.

Tony-Perez-SucuriTony Perez, the co-founder of Sucuri THE leading name in WordPress security.

josh-pollockJosh Pollock, the guy who in addition to regularly blogging about WordPress for Torque Magazine and developing cool WordPress themes and plugins, literally wrote the book on the newly integrated WordPress REST API.

pippin-williamsonWe’ll also be talking to Pippin Williamson of Pippin’s Plugins; one of the most successful premium plugin shops around. They’re the creators of the insanely popular plugin Easy Digital Downloads and many others.

We’re also going to do some cool stuff that we’ve never tried before. Such as having a Harvard MBA on the show who has agreed to take community business questions that we gather in advance. So for all of you who have WordPress and/or Divi businesses with burning business questions—that will be an episode you don’t want to miss.

And finally, I’m going to get out of my apartment and go record some episodes at WordPress events; primarily WordCamps. The first of which will take place this month in Miami, Florida where I’ll be meeting up with at least two future guest hosts to record their stories/interviews.

Next Week: David Bisset’s WordPress Story

david-bissettTo kick all of this off, next Friday, February 12th, our very first guest of Divi Nation season two will be David Bisset.

David is a WordPress developer who hails from the early days of WordPress—version 1.5—and an avid community member. He has contributed to both WordPress core and BuddyPress. He is also a founding organizer of the Miami WordCamp. All of which we will be taking about on the show next week.

What Do You Think?

This show is all about you, the Divi Nation. Which is why your feedback is essential.

What are your thoughts on my season one takeaways? Are you excited for season two?

Let me know what you think in the comments below!

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  1. Nice! Keep up with the good work! I am happy that this project will continue in 2016!

    I really like Divi CSS tips, as they are important for developing Divi sites, even if I don’t have so much knowledge in code.

    Thanks ?

  2. You’re spot on with the shorter, simpler format. I’m new to the community and am excited to learn more via your podcasts! I’m a DIY user for my own business needs. Just getting started.

  3. More DIVI/EXTRA quick tips along with CSS tips are a good thing…

  4. Great update! Looking forward to the quick tips!

  5. Glad you have returned. I consumed every bit of the content last year, it was never too much, but I understand the new structure will be just as great and more manageable for you and your team. Looking forward next week and beyond.

  6. Couple questions (maybe you could cover at some point in a video?):

    How can I keep the header/menu at the top when using mobile?

    How can I make a full width slider that cycles slides/pics, but keeps the same static text? I’ve been using “Smart Slider” to acheive this for now, but I suspect this is doable in Divi natively?

    Many thanks.

    • Thanks for these Quick Tip requests Matt. I’ll put them on my list of ideas to cover.

  7. Hi Interesting news about Divi Nation. Can’t seem to find any links / category to Divi Nation season 1? Where are you hiding this great content? Love Jenn

    • All of our previous episodes are under the Community Category in the right hand sidebar.

  8. Some well thought out changes that i’m sure will go down well…and some great guests lined up too.

    looking forward to following, listening and learning 🙂

  9. I’m all caught up and ready for some more exciting episodes. I didn’t know there are any influencial men in the divi community! season one were primairly chicks;) haha jk. love all you do Nathan, and thanks for the high valued content you pump out. Divi Nation has really inspired my business goals for 2016.

    • Thanks Nathan, glad you’re up for more Divi Nation! I’m really excited too. Last season 7 out of 15 guests on the show were women; so it was actually pretty even. I know in WordPress and especially tech as a whole women seem to be drastically underrepresented. I was really proud to showcase the amazingly creative and business savvy work that women are doing with WordPress and Divi. I’m still in the process of booking season two. The future guests featured above were the first ones I could work out scheduling with. I’m in the process of locking in some really talented female designers and developers for this season.

      • Noticed that effort in season 1, and I enjoyed the varied perspectives. I look forward to season 2 🙂

  10. Hi Nathan,

    I really like the DIVI/EXTRA quick tips along with CSS tips. Where can we find them easily? Which category?

    Maybe they can be made more easily accessabel for future reference.

  11. Another excuse to sit at my desk at dinner time!

    Brilliant news can’t wait to see the new episodes, love them 🙂

  12. Yes, a much better format, I wasn’t interested in everything in the podcasts but now I can choose the things that are relevant to me.

  13. These sound like great changes. The old episodes were too long for me 🙂 love the smaller more focused content idea.

  14. Just FYI, I don’t see this episode in my feed in iTunes.

    Not sure if it’s just me, or if this is intentional on your part, but I thought I’d let you know in case!

    P.S Really looking forward to season two and some of those guests!

    • Thanks for the heads up Ryan, I’ll look into that.

  15. Great update and idea!

  16. Congratulations on the first year and I’m very excited for season 2. Everything you have done thus far truly has added to my expansion of knowledge in the divi & WordPress. I have a professional practice, 3rd year as radio host both am, fm, podcast and live streaming. Plus Im a web developer business. I built my first WordPress site 2008. I really love divi powered by wordpress. Thank you so much …

  17. Hi Nathan –
    I’m a Newbie and have been following the blogs and using the Elegant Themes resources for a year now. I don’t usually post or comment anywhere as I don’t feel I know enough. However, I Love the Divi Nation podcasts/posts and have learned so much! It did take me a while to go through and catch up but I often search for items I’m looking for and return to the Podcasts. I am really looking forward to a great season and continuing my education here and in the forum and FB groups. Thanks for all the help and insight.

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